罗杰·彭罗斯
立场时间线 4 条 · 4 个议题
同一议题按时间排列，说法变化一目了然。
反对（意识中的“理解”超越算法和形式系统）
“"It means I am unprovable. When I say I am unprovable, I am unprovable."”
来源访谈 →认为波函数坍缩等非计算过程可能是意识非计算性的物理根源
“"There must be something which is not computable in the physical world, and that includes the phenomenon of consciousness."”
来源访谈 →提出“量子现实”与“经典现实”根本不同，其在时间上的特性可能与意识体验相关
“"Quantum reality is not like that... it says, no, I don't answer questions like that."”
来源访谈 →金句墙 5 条
“It means I am unprovable. When I say I am unprovable, I am unprovable.”
它的意思是‘我不可被证明’。当我说‘我不可被证明’时，我确实是不可被证明的。
彭罗斯再驳意识计算论：理解与数学无关 · 2025/6/12“Understanding... this is something to do with consciousness.”
理解……这与意识有关。
彭罗斯再驳意识计算论：理解与数学无关 · 2025/6/12“There must be something which is not computable in the physical world, and that includes the phenomenon of consciousness.”
物理世界中必定存在不可计算的事物，而意识现象就包含其中。
彭罗斯再驳意识计算论：理解与数学无关 · 2025/6/12“What I am saying is that there seems to be something in consciousness which relies on something beyond the theory I am talking about.”
我想说的是，意识中似乎存在某种东西，它依赖于我所谈论的理论之外的东西。
彭罗斯再驳意识计算论：理解与数学无关 · 2025/6/12“Quantum reality is not like that... it says, no, I don't answer questions like that.”
量子现实不是那样的……它会说，不，我不回答那样的问题。
彭罗斯再驳意识计算论：理解与数学无关 · 2025/6/12